{"id":64760,"date":"2010-07-17T23:30:39","date_gmt":"2010-07-17T23:30:39","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.photigy.com\/school\/?p=64760"},"modified":"2019-11-09T01:47:44","modified_gmt":"2019-11-09T09:47:44","slug":"diy-portable-power-system-for-paul-c-buff-monolights-vagabond-iii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.photigy.com\/school\/diy-portable-power-system-for-paul-c-buff-monolights-vagabond-iii\/","title":{"rendered":"DIY portable power system for Paul C. Buff monolights: Vagabond III?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>[et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; custom_padding_last_edited=&#8221;off|desktop&#8221; admin_label=&#8221;Hero&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.22.3&#8243; use_background_color_gradient=&#8221;on&#8221; background_color_gradient_start=&#8221;#0c1319&#8243; background_color_gradient_end=&#8221;#2b3a42&#8243; background_color_gradient_direction=&#8221;60deg&#8221; box_shadow_style=&#8221;preset7&#8243; box_shadow_horizontal=&#8221;0px&#8221; box_shadow_vertical=&#8221;-80px&#8221; box_shadow_color=&#8221;#ffffff&#8221; custom_padding=&#8221;20px|0px|0px|0px&#8221;][et_pb_row custom_padding=&#8221;|||&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.22.3&#8243;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.0.47&#8243;][et_pb_text admin_label=&#8221;Title&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.23.3&#8243; text_font=&#8221;Open Sans|600|||||||&#8221; text_line_height=&#8221;1.8em&#8221; header_2_font=&#8221;Poppins||||||||&#8221; header_2_font_size=&#8221;36px&#8221; header_2_line_height=&#8221;1.4em&#8221; text_orientation=&#8221;center&#8221; background_layout=&#8221;dark&#8221; max_width=&#8221;700px&#8221; module_alignment=&#8221;center&#8221;]<\/p>\n<h1>DIY portable power system for Paul C. Buff monolights:<\/h1>\n<h3>Vagabond III?<\/h3>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_video src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=2LnvCNyqg-k&#8221; image_src=&#8221;\/\/i.ytimg.com\/vi\/2LnvCNyqg-k\/hqdefault.jpg&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.19.7&#8243; border_radii=&#8221;on|10px|10px|10px|10px&#8221; box_shadow_style=&#8221;preset1&#8243; box_shadow_color=&#8221;rgba(198,198,198,0.3)&#8221; module_alignment=&#8221;center&#8221; animation_style=&#8221;slide&#8221; animation_direction=&#8221;top&#8221; animation_intensity_slide=&#8221;10%&#8221; animation_starting_opacity=&#8221;80%&#8221;][\/et_pb_video][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_row][\/et_pb_section][et_pb_section fb_built=&#8221;1&#8243; specialty=&#8221;on&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.22.3&#8243;][et_pb_column type=&#8221;3_4&#8243; specialty_columns=&#8221;3&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.0.47&#8243;][et_pb_row_inner admin_label=&#8221;Row&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.0.47&#8243;][et_pb_column_inner type=&#8221;4_4&#8243; saved_specialty_column_type=&#8221;3_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.0.47&#8243;][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;3.19.7&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p>I rarely shoot on locations, always feel more comfortable working in the studio. In most cases there is a power outlets on location, I had only a few where it was too far from the lights (warehouse freezer, for example). With no external power I&#8217;ve used 4 Canon speedlites, but they too weak to be used with serious light modifiers or on a large objects.<br \/>\nIt makes me feel very uncomfortable when I do not have enough power:-)<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>So, I was looking at <a title=\"The Vagabond II Portable Power System\" href=\"https:\/\/www.paulcbuff.com\/Portable-Power\/Vagabond-Mini-Lithium.html\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #cc0000\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Vagabond II<\/a> or similar portable power solutions, but did not find the one I like: it should be powerful enough to run 3-5 strobes equal to X1600 (1600 effective\/ 660 true WS) for at least 300 pops and to be not expensive, as I won&#8217;t be using the system often, therefore do not want to invest lot of money in it.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.photigy.com\/school\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/1-47.jpg&#8221; alt=&#8221;DIY portable power system for Paul C. Buff monolights&#8221; show_in_lightbox=&#8221;on&#8221; align=&#8221;center&#8221; align_tablet=&#8221;center&#8221; align_last_edited=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.23&#8243;][\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;3.19.7&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">DIY portable power battery pack for Paul C. Buff monolights<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>After researching and reading <a title=\"The Vagabond II Portable Power System\" href=\"https:\/\/www.paulcbuff.com\/Portable-Power\/Vagabond-Mini-Lithium.html\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #cc0000;\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Vagabond II<\/a> specification and reviews I found that I can easily build an equivalent of vagabond II with more powerful battery <span style=\"text-decoration: line-through;\">and inverter<\/span> (not the inverter: I was thinking vagabond II has 150 W one, but it appears that it has 400W inverter) for a less money and more fun.<br \/>\nI am not the first who did it, I found <a title=\"DIY Portable Power for Strobes Monolights Vagabond II Alien Bees Build your own\" href=\"http:\/\/photocamel.com\/forum\/lighting-technique\/101446-diy-portable-power-strobes-monolights-vagabond-ii-alien-bees-build-your-own.html\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #cc0000;\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">this simple guide<\/a> to be the most helpful.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Yes, I won&#8217;t have any customer support or warranty for the whole thing, but the enjoyment from making the thing myself will cover all the drawbacks:-)<\/p>\n<p>\n<strong>Here we go, the ingredients:<\/strong><br \/>\n<\/p>\n<p><strong>The power inverter: <\/strong>I know it should be a pure sine wave inverter, so I&#8217;ve tried Sunforce 650 watt, <a title=\"Pure sine power inverter\" href=\"http:\/\/www.frys.com\/product\/6220970?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #cc0000;\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">right from Fry&#8217;s<\/a>. This was the wrong step, as it did not work with more then 1 x1600 strobe:<br \/>\nAt the beginning of each recycle, each X1600 WL unit will draw a peak current of about 18A for about 200 milliseconds. With 3 units connected, a draw was much more then 650 watts, and inverter shuts down to protect circuits from overload.This is the key, our inverter should handle it differently: reduce the voltage under the heavy load, this will give enough time for capacitors to be charged.Unfortunately, this is no such information can be found on the inverter specification, only our community mind can help us here:-) Correct inverters are made by <a title=\"Samlex America inverters\" href=\"http:\/\/www.samlexamerica.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #cc0000;\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Samlex America<\/a>. The 150 watt model is exactly\u00a0 (at least some people believe so) the same unit used in Paul C. Buff Vagabond II system <span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><strong>(Update:<\/strong><\/span> I was wrong here, 150 W on vagabond I, and 400 W on Vagabond II).I bought <a title=\"PST-30S-12A \" href=\"http:\/\/www.samlexamerica.com\/products\/ProductsList.aspx?cid=SS21\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #cc0000;\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">PST-30S-12A<\/a> (300 W) model <a title=\"cheapest Pure Sine Wave Power Inverter by Samlex\" href=\"http:\/\/www.donrowe.com\/inverters\/puresine_300.html\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #cc0000;\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">here<\/a> for $140 shipped.<br \/>\n<strong>The battery<\/strong>: Vagabond II has 20 Amp Hour(s), so I went for 35 Amp Hour(s).\u00a0 It should have enough juice to run for 75% more pops than vagabond, but still to be not too heavy or too big for more or less comfortable use.<br \/>\nI&#8217;ve got <a title=\"Powersonic PS-12350NB battery\" href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2GIk6Mf\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #cc0000;\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Powersonic PS-12350NB<\/a> (almost like a <a title=\"Panasonic LC-R1233P battery\" href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2DEbqmU\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #cc0000;\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Panasonic<\/a>, but cost 35% less) battery: 27 pounds sounds just right for me:-)<br \/>\n<strong>The battery charger<\/strong>: Following Jacob&#8217;s advise, I&#8217;ve got <a title=\"SUPER SMART BATTERY TENDER JR.\" href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/2N71eI7\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #cc0000;\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">SUPER SMART BATTERY TENDER JR.<\/a> for $20 shipped. 700 milliampere should get a full charged battery in one night, and it also has car adapter if you need to do it during the trip.<br \/>\n<strong>The bag<\/strong> (<a title=\"bag used for a portable battery power pack\" href=\"http:\/\/www.lowes.com\/pd_264091-1492-1L-22128-1_0_?productId=1075997&amp;Ntt=awp%208%27%27&amp;Ntk=i_products_cascade&amp;pl=1&amp;currentURL=\/pl__0__s?newSearch=true$Ntt=awp%208%27%27$y=0$x=0\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #cc0000;\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">AWP 8&#8243; Electrician&#8217;s Tote<\/a> &#8211; the link is for 10&#8221;x8&#8221;, but I&#8217;ve got 8&#8221;x8&#8221; bag) and miscellaneous accessories such as a wires, switch, etc I&#8217;ve got from a local Lowes store.<br \/>\nWooden plates, black mate paint, a soldering iron (I&#8217;ve used a torch light), two hands and two hours of\u00a0 my time between my lovely family and my precious tools were enough to complete everything.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center; padding-top: 12px;\">Few more images:<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.photigy.com\/school\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/2-7.png&#8221; alt=&#8221;DIY portable power system for Paul C. Buff monolights&#8221; show_in_lightbox=&#8221;on&#8221; align=&#8221;center&#8221; align_tablet=&#8221;center&#8221; align_last_edited=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.23&#8243;][\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;3.19.7&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p>Opened DIY power pack for strobes<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.photigy.com\/school\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/3-5.png&#8221; alt=&#8221;DIY portable power system for Paul C. Buff monolights&#8221; show_in_lightbox=&#8221;on&#8221; align=&#8221;center&#8221; align_tablet=&#8221;center&#8221; align_last_edited=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.23&#8243;][\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;3.19.7&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Diy portable power battery pack vagabond II with charger<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>A little bit more explanation and some tests (2 x WL X1600 and one AlienBees B400 connected) is on the top video. (I guess this is time for me to invest in my English, it is a shame how I pronounced \u201csine\u201d\u2026 \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Let me know what do you think\u2026 If you have made something similar, I would be glad to post here your experience: just give me the link!<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center; padding-top: 15px;\"><b>Update (11\/14\/2010):<\/b><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>I was asked few times for a circuit diagram of the device, so here we go. I\u2019ve added a fuse and a voltmeter to it: I do not have them yet, but its on my to-do list.<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.photigy.com\/school\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/4.gif&#8221; alt=&#8221;DIY portable power system for Paul C. Buff monolights&#8221; show_in_lightbox=&#8221;on&#8221; align=&#8221;center&#8221; align_tablet=&#8221;center&#8221; align_last_edited=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.23&#8243;][\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;3.19.7&#8243;]<\/p>\n<p>DIY battery power supply vagabond II \u2013 like electrical diagram<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 15px;\"><b>Update:<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Today (12\/14\/10) I\u2019ve received an update from Samlex, I think they have some interesting info for those who used\/thinking to use Samlex inverters in the DIY powerpacks.<br \/>\nHere it is:<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>We looked at a fix from one of our R&#038;D engineers. It was a simple fix of adding of a thermistor to the AC output. It certainly dramatically lowered the current load presented to the inverter from the strobe, in this case a single 250 Wsec unit).<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">From this:<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.photigy.com\/school\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/5-30.jpg&#8221; alt=&#8221;DIY portable power system for Paul C. Buff monolights&#8221; show_in_lightbox=&#8221;on&#8221; align=&#8221;center&#8221; align_tablet=&#8221;center&#8221; align_last_edited=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.23&#8243;][\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;3.19.7&#8243;]&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">To this:<\/p>\n<p>[\/et_pb_text][et_pb_image src=&#8221;https:\/\/www.photigy.com\/school\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/02\/6-27.jpg&#8221; alt=&#8221;DIY portable power system for Paul C. Buff monolights&#8221; show_in_lightbox=&#8221;on&#8221; align=&#8221;center&#8221; align_tablet=&#8221;center&#8221; align_last_edited=&#8221;on|desktop&#8221; _builder_version=&#8221;3.23&#8243;][\/et_pb_image][et_pb_text _builder_version=&#8221;3.19.7&#8243;]<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>While this looks great for this application (powering a strobe) it is not ideal for all applications which this inverter gets used for, and end users will be using higher power and multiple strobes which will continue to stress the output components with the end result of lowering the life of the unit.<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>We are going to try a few of these modified ones out with customers short term before we make any final decision, medium term we are providing users the attached with recommendations in section 7.11:<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>\u201cThe rated RMS Surge Power rating of the of the inverter in Watts should be more than 4 times the Watt Sec energy rating of the strobe \/ flash unit. For example, if the energy rating of the strobe \/ flash is 320 Watt Sec, the surge power rating of the inverter should be more than 320 Watt Sec X 4 = 1280 W. An inverter with surge rating of around 1280 W or above will thus be suitable for this strobe \/ flash \u2013 e.g. Samlex America, Inc. inverter Model No. PST-60S-12A that has a continuous rating of 600 W and a surge rating of 1200 W.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Full spec of ongoing changes on Samlex inverters: <a title=\"Full spec of ongoing changes on Samlex inverters:\" href=\"https:\/\/www.photigy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/12\/Sizing-Inverters-for-Photographic-Strobe-Lights_2010-11-011.docx\" target=\"_blank\" style=\"color: #cc0000;\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Download docx<\/a><\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>So, it looks like the new revision of samlex inverters will work better for powering strobes&#8230;<br \/>\nI guess I may send mine for a replacement, but after few extensive runs I am going to do while having fun on Key West.. going there in 4 days:-)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-top: 15px;\"><strong>9\/08\/2011 Update:<\/strong><\/p>\n<hr>\n<p>The unit (Samplex inverter) has died working with 2x640Ws lights at full power. Died after 5 pops. talked to Samlex engineer and was surprised to find that this 9inverter not suppose to work in such application. Go figure now:-)<\/p>\n<p><\/p>\n<p>Going to buy Vagabond Mini\u2122 Lithium instead.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<br \/>\n[\/et_pb_text][\/et_pb_column_inner][\/et_pb_row_inner][\/et_pb_column][et_pb_column type=&#8221;1_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.0.47&#8243;][et_pb_sidebar orientation=&#8221;right&#8221; area=&#8221;et_pb_widget_area_4&#8243; _builder_version=&#8221;3.17.1&#8243;][\/et_pb_sidebar][\/et_pb_column][\/et_pb_section]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>DIY portable power system for Paul C. Buff monolights: Vagabond III? I rarely shoot on locations, always feel more comfortable working in the studio. 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